This morning you get a “Guess the Pub” by request. An interesting concept, you’d think, giving the requestor a mild advantage. But he (or she, sexist) is sworn to secrecy on pain of excommunication from retiredmartin.com.
It might be a doddle, as this pub is world famous as the boozer featured in Series 2 of Star Trek where Kirk intercepts a delivery of evil craft keg being delivered by Klingons. Look it up on You Tube.
It may have survived the craft invasion but nothing escapes cheap fizzy cider brands.
Where is it ? Well, this post allows me to resurrect a clue from an earlier blogpost;
and add “but not THIS one“.
And I can exclusively reveal it’s north of Aldershot, and not far from the True North. The map extract won’t help.
In case you’re wondering if this IS a pub, note authentic “Old Boy with cap” at the bar,
and battered Pride pump clip.
If I’d had to guess this one, I’d have though “Kentish Town or Ilford, innit“.
But I’d be very wrong….
retiredmartin 
I found it Martin.
Google is a bit too clever sometimes – feel like a cheat tbh.
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The town has a rather unfortunate name for beer lovers, doesn’t it?
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With these prizes I think it is okay to cheat a bit.
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Ha ! Just seen they’ve got a Tim Horton, too. Must be Glasgow.
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Town? I was looking in a city. I’m probably on the wrong continent too. I’m beat. Looking forward to the reveal.
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A town within a city, if it helps.
I think if I’d been following my own clues I’d be looking in Washington DC, wrongly. The foliage should help.
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When using Google advanced search, in the “exact phrase” box, never use three words where two will do.
And just put the one other basic general word in the “all of these words” box.
Less is more.
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Found it using DuckDuckGo searches. Surprised me too where it is located. Looks like the real thing rather than a plastic imitation pub, which we mostly get in the States.
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Yes, it’s the Royal Coachman in Waterdown, Hamilton in the great state of Ontario (is it ? I’ve no idea). The clue was Founders; Hamilton was one of the other US Founders that wasn’t Benjamin Franklin. Perhaps I needed some clues about moose or something.
As Paul just said, it’s fairly convincing and was a 19th century hotel. I’d love to see the NBSS scores for the Pride.
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It’s the only pub on the whole interweb with a Kirk Room mentioned in their blurb 😆
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“AL” in “ROYAL” was about as far as I got.
I couldn’t make out the second word from the top bit of an “A”.
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“Yes, it’s the Royal Coachman in Waterdown, Hamilton in the great state of Ontario (is it ? I’ve no idea).”
Argh! Closest I’ve been yet (if you allow my musing about Aldershot, Burlington). 🙂
And Ontario is a province, not a state. Though, they do think they’re the greatest province. 😉
Cheers
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Still a fair number of cask outlets in Canada, even in Quebec. I’m aware of an allegedly very good brewpub beside Vancouver.
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We were close (but no cigar) here. Went up a blind alley checking out the nearby Firkin chain, one of which had an almost identical bar. 🙄
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Before I did the astoundingly simple search, I’d worked out through the tree branches that the pub was probably called “Royal” something or other, and I was intrigued by the summer clothes when all the leaves had fallen from the acacia trees too. I could almost make out that the place over the road was called the Copper Kettle, but then I decided to search “Kirk Room” with “pub” and it was one of only a few results.
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Oh, and I ignored pretty well everything that Martin said too…
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That’s the best route, always.
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Bravo! The reason for the Kirk Room is that it was the Kirk Hotel until sometime in the 1990s. Waterdown is a village, not a town, in the Hamilton municipality, with a historic Victorian core but much new development all around. Ontario is a Province, not a state. And Waterdown is not north of Aldershot – quite a bit south actually, same latitude as Corsica!
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But I can see a suburb called “Aldershot” literally south of Waterdown on the map, right next to the water !
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Oh, THAT Aldershot! You’re quite right. It’s the train station for the GO train into Toronto. Aldershot is in the City of Burlington, not Hamilton. And Hamilton is named after Hamilton Scotland not Alexander Hamilton. The Pride was indeed drinking well the last time I was there. Food’s good too. And just over the road is the American Hotel, even older and also excellent.
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Yes and not far from the True North Gallery I mentioned in the post.
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“The true North strong and free”
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Oh and Captain Kirk was (is) Canadian.
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I told you that Star Wars story was true.
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True North Gallery? Assumed ’twas True North Records. What is it with True North any rate? Everything around there is called True North something as if it was a local name, but I couldn’t find any explanation. Perhaps JRC could explain?
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True North Gallery, Records and Cannabis!
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Look at the English version of the Canadian national anthem. (There’s a French version too)
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“But he (or she, sexist) is sworn to secrecy on pain of excommunication from retiredmartin.com.”
Yikes! That’s harsh!
“It might be a doddle, as this pub is world famous as the boozer featured in Series 2 of Star Trek where Kirk intercepts a delivery of evil craft keg being delivered by Klingons. Look it up on You Tube.”
Wait, what?
“and add “but not THIS one“.”
So… still in the US (or maybe North America?).
“And I can exclusively reveal it’s north of Aldershot, and not far from the True North. ”
True North, eh? There’s an Aldershot in Nova Scotia and… (checks Google) Burlington? Hang on.
“note authentic “Old Boy with cap” at the bar,”
Is that you in the mirror on the left?
“But I’d be very wrong….”
Damn. Milton is ‘north’ of Aldershot in Burlington. Used to go to a Brit style pub there back in the late 70’s. Buggered if I can remember it now.
I’ll take a wild guess at either the Temple or Bryden’s.
Cheers
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