March 2025. Howden.
It wasn’t yet 2:30 and we’d already exhausted Howden’s possibilities, from church,
to cinema (closed).
The market place offie sounded tempting,
but instead of drinking tins of Boddington in the park we chose to drink cans of Wylam in the craft bar.
A craft bar that What Pub doesn’t acknowledge the existence of, so thank goodness for Untappd.
It’s the Candid of the east, Paul.
Two rooms, both with trestle tables, and two keg beers from Gravity Well and Turning Point.
(but is it Key Keg ?, asked no-one ever).
And one very chatty owner and one other customer, a biker from Goole.
Well, they both knew their towns, and their beers (and their bikes) and I doubt we’ll get better company all month, and sometimes that’s more important than the cask.
So good was the chat, we shared a can of the mythical Jakehead, which was simultaneously the very best and worst of ideas.
Still nearly two hours till our GBG micro opens, time for (great) coffee and cake in Ginger’s ice cream parlour.
Another four of those flat whites would have been just the ticket.
retiredmartin 
I thought it was “Still nearly two hours while our GBG micro opens” in those parts.
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Thanks for pointing that out Paul !
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Yes, the temporary traffic light signs take great care to say “wait here until green light shows” rather than “while red light shows”.
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That’s a level of detail I missed entirely!
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Yes Etu, as far as I know “wait here / until green / light shows” doesn’t have a “wait here / while green / light shows” version for Yorkshire.
I think “When red / light shows / wait here” signs are more common although they would better be “Wait here / while red / light shows”.
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But didn’t the signs saying “Wait here / *while* red / light shows” result in numerous crashes back in the day, because Lancashire and Yorkshire speakers all understand “while” as what the rest of the country thinks of as “up to the point when”, or until. So drivers were sitting still in front of green lights and setting off when the red light replaced the green one.
I first heard this in the mid-70s, and I always assumed it was apocryphal.
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Yes Will, you’ve thought it through properly. I hadn’t and regret that my last sentence is wrong.
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I haven’t got a clue what any of these red lights comments are about, but then you and I never worry too much about red lights on pub crawls, Paul !
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Martin, Red lights are for motorists to obey while we’ve crossed a Yorkshire road or until we’ve crossed a road elsewhere – that’s unless I’ve confused myself again.
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I missed the reference in my own original post, Paul !
That Etu is a sharp one, he spots stuff I miss.
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I can’t fix WhatPub for you, but I’ve responded to your implied plea to add the Hop Cavern to Pubs Galore:
https://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/92560/
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Well done Will.
Wasn’t that little craft bar in Brigg also absent from What Pub ?
In some branches (Eastbourne) they’d have claimed the keg was Key Keg and put it in the GBG.
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There is still no method for adding a pub to WhatPub. You have to find an existing one nearby and write a note saying something like, “please copy the details from Pubs Galore”!
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