It’s snowing in Sheffield, so my trip to explore the closed pubs of industrial Attercliffe on foot will have to wait.
Have another quiz, as I head north. Or do I ? Depends on your view of when “North” starts, I guess.
If it helps, today’s mystery was selling this “substantial meal” in December;
“Hot roast beef on a barm cake served with chips and onion gravy“
As always, a little OS extract will help,
but I imagine you’ll be straining to read the names of the shops across the road to work out where this town centre sports pub is.
Typical northern seating, spoilt a bit by what looks like Venezian patterns on that left hand chair. I can assure you today’s town isn’t twinned with Venice; it’s fame built firmly on a commercial decision from the 1830s.
The top pic might make you think this is a “CAMRA pub” with its tasting trays and Wizard, but the reality is very different.
The Beer & Pubs Forum sadly missed this one out on their trip, as did I more recently when I made a craft beer day out of it.
Anyway, a couple of clues for you.
If Etu gets this within 10 minutes he’s barred.
Er, I think that I have it!
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You’re barred !
In the late 1980s I was barred from the local radio station as I always won the music quiz. Prizes were Mister Mr LPs, Depeche Mode CD singles etc etc, so wasn’t devastated.
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You’ve reminded me that I won an LP from Wolverhampton based Beacon Radio in the 1980s.
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I thought for a moment you meant you’d forgot to pick it up, Paul.
Was it a Bonnie Tyler LP ?
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No, they posted it to me.
I can’t remember much about it other than that each track was from a different artist.
It’ll be somewhere in my archive.
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Now, how can I allude to it cryptically?
It does seem to have connections with Leicester, Cheshire, Gloucester and Lancashire, perhaps?
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The Benson & Hedges cup 1981 ?
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Oh, Cheese, yes. Perhaps you should have claimed it, or I should give the prize to the second correct answer .
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Well, I thought that you were quite generous with your hints.
If one was lucky enough to have the factlet that “barm” is generally confined to west of the Pennines and north of the Trent, and combined that with your uncertainty, as to whether this was truly in the North, then that excluded everything north of the Mersey, so narrowed things down greatly.
Your map fragment was of a pretty significant rail facility, and the main railway town in that area is Crewe – it matched up very easily. You also alluded to that history further.
The rest was down to clicking on little blue circles on pubs in the area.
Collins online dictionary identifies localities for dialect words, incidentally.
One day I’ll tap you for a Doom Bar, Martin – that’s a promise. I might even drink it too.
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It’s a bap.
I think the idea is I buy you a Doom Bar but I drink it.
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Sorry, this is the free dictionary that I meant
https://www.thefreedictionary.com
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The Wilde Mammoth?
I’m really struggling here, ‘North’ to me means Rutland. Is it in Rutland?…
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Rutland is “South”. The North starts in Stoke, but not everything above Stoke is “North”.
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There’s a football ground near the station. The team took its name from a Danish princess.
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Princess Crewe ?
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The interior is of a pub we *did* visit on our trip, and had some decent Hobgoblin and Dizzy Blonde. But I struggle to see the connection with the pictorial clues.
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Yes, you’re right. I was trying to find some photos of the Alberts Corner, which I went into in 2017, to match the ones Martin has posted. Close, but no coconut. But I’ve found a photo on the Facebook page of the pub you’re thinking of which has the same carpet. I’m not going to name it because I don’t want to steal someone else’s Doom Bar.
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It WAS the Cheese Hall, though oddly that wasn’t on your itinerary when I re-read the first page of the Crewe thread this morning, so it must have been an on-the-day decision to go !
Just read your post here;
https://pubcurmudgeon.blogspot.com/2017/12/life-outside-bubble.html
As for the clues,The Cheese Hall was called Oscars, and it’s an Amber owned pub.
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The map looks like Preston.
The white writing on the window looks something like The Roper Hall but i can’t read it backwards.
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You were on this trip, Paul 😀
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Or is it Crewe?
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Ah yes, maybe the Cheese Hall, Crewe.
Somehow on the map I mistook a football pitch for that shortcut to the Continental.
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“Shortcut”.
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Bravo Paul – but what’s the significance of Wilde, I wonder?
And of the lady – apart from her saying “cheese” as one does?
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An Amber (Rudd) Inns pub.
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Etu,
Yes, don’t know about Oscar Wilde and I don’t think the woman is Gwyneth Dunwoody.
That Cheese Hall was definitely NOT the highlight of our day.
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I thought the argument about the merits of the Hop Pole was the highlight of that trip I missed.
Incidentally, I had a wonderful night there after meeting you and Quosh in Stafford, though not ALL of the beer would have met your definition of real ale !
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No, the argument about the merits of the Hop Pole – on which both Mudgies were in full agreement – was the highlight of the BPF for the next few days.
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I found Bing maps OS facility indispensable, but can’t relate to the pics of Wilde or the furry.
Also what Martin wrote, and the fact that you won’t hear “barm” very much east of the Pennines or south of the Trent.
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Furry ? No way to talk about a former MP !
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The photo of Oscar Wilde put me on a right wild(e) goose chase worthy of Reg Smeeton himself, Wilde, Lady Windermere’s Fan, Windermere, Ulverston, somewhere else in Cumberland/Westmoreland…all hopelessly wrong but kept me occupied for a bit.
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Pleased to be of service, Bill 😉
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“Depends on your view of when “North” starts, I guess.”
60 degrees latitude. 🙂
“As always, a little OS extract will help,”
Blimey. You should be in charge of ‘Where’s Waldo’ books. 😉
“but I imagine you’ll be straining to read the names of the shops across the road to work out where this town centre sports pub is.”
My eyes are getting too old for that kind of lark.
“The top pic might make you think this is a “CAMRA pub” with its tasting trays and Wizard, but the reality is very different.”
Um, the ‘top pic’ is a woman in a power suit with a furry replica of a throwback to the prehistoric days.*
* – when women didn’t wear power suits. 🙂
“If Etu gets this within 10 minutes he’s barred.”
Pfft. Barred is from something that’s open. You mean he’s banned from your blog. 😉
Cheers
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“Where’s Waldo” would work best for the Waldegrave, wouldn’t it ?
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Absolutely!
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