
November 2025. Manchester.

Back in Piccadilly Gardens from Sale only slightly later than hoped, I admired the Manchester Christmas markets, apparently only second to Nuremberg, who are therefore the Arsenal of Christmas tat.

All you need for Christmas is a pint of Holt in the Hare & Hounds, but I reckoned Matt would like to take Emma and mate Somerset Sam somewhere more sophisticated,

so Pomona’s North Westward Ho it is, mainly because it escapes football fans on match day.
It’s also a classy, friendly, place, founded on quality cask and craft. A bit like Thornbridge without the Union system nonsense.
Matt and I go cask murk (3+), Emma has weird keg, Sam has a glass of red wine. He’s from Bridgwater, obvs.

I pick the big table that the youngsters immediately recognise as too big for our Gang of Four and seek out a smaller one.
Young folk are not only comfortable with all sorts of pubs, from Old Mens to taproom, they also know the etiquette of pubgoing.

I know Sam as a teenage lad who had a shared interest with Matt a decade or so ago.
A lovely young man comfortable chatting with an Old Bloke, a 24 year old who’s seen Bob Dylan and Radiohead in the last week.
Really, I despair of young people’s musical taste.
“November 2025. Manchester.”
(looks way down)
Phew! No other comments to avoid!
“I admired the Manchester Christmas markets, apparently only second to Nuremberg, who are therefore the Arsenal of Christmas tat.”
Ok, I take back my semi snide remark at the beginning of my comment in the post below.
“but I reckoned Matt would like to take Emma and mate Somerset Sam somewhere more sophisticated,”
Show off.
“mainly because it escapes football fans on match day.”
(slow golf clap)
“He’s from Bridgwater, obvs.”
What county is obvs, pray tell?
“Young folk are not only comfortable with all sorts of pubs, from Old Mens to taproom, they also know the etiquette of pubgoing.”
There’s hope yet!
“Really, I despair of young people’s musical taste.”
Give them time. 😉
Cheers
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Bridgwater is the last town you would expect folk to come from who drink red wine. Trust me on that. Joe Strummer of The Clash lived there and drank cider.
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You are, my good sir, my guide to the behind the scenes in the Britain. 😎
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You should have gone to the Dylan show with him!
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Spotify says that my daughter has a listening age of seventy-three. I’m unsure if middle son (older) would get into double figures, however…
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Do you use Spotify ?
I swapped to Tidal and don’t get one of those “Your musical year unwrapped’ things.
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If I look at the artists my youngest actually went to see this year, Springsteen, Neil Young, Van Morrison, Cat Stevens, then 73 seems below average.
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That list shows he’s got good taste!
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That’s the Harvey’s Sussex of music !
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I saw Dylan live around 2007 and friends and I walked out after a few numbers. He was rude and awfully off key. So disappointing!
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He was very good in 2016, but less so in 1981, I thought.
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Do you have a “Spotify Age”, Lana ?
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It would be impossible to work out since I share Franc’s Spotify account and we are – for the most part in music, opposites.
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Lana, we saw him about then at the NEC and my main memory is of it being a waste of money. He was a dot in the distance, music was his band not him and I don’t think there was anything I recognised.
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Must have been the same night. I passed word down my group line “shall we go at the interval?” to which the response came back up “why wait until the interval?” We weren’t the only ones to be making an early exit.
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I don’t think you’re allowed to criticise Bob on here, I’m sure the official Dylan fan club comments, but I know what you mean.
I never want to watch anyone over the age of 25 live, or listen to old artists singing their hits, so I have a weird perspective.
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Rod Stewart live is great though, excellent energy. Well he was about 8 years ago the last time I went, aged around 72.
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(I don’t go to concerts anymore)
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Mrs RM sometimes comes with me to gigs, mainly alt folky women in small venues like the Hare & Hounds in King’s Heath, but she struggles to stand for 2 hours these days.
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I have a friend who is disabled and loves gigs – she takes some kind of special portable stool around with her.
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That’s brilliant, good for her !
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For live music karaoke cannot be bettered.
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I highly recommend the karaoke on Krakatoa on Aberdeen’s waterfront.
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